Since January, 2003
            
 (a random before-and-after moment)
May 10, 2007
May 2, 2013
2nd (Mid) at I, Looking East (see more)

A Friday afternoon post over at City Paper's Young and Hungry site broke the news of a liquor license application for a "multipurpose facility" by the name of District Winery, saying that it would have "450 seats (with a total capacity for 750) plus dancing, a 100-seat summer garden, and a wine pub."
And that it would be at 385 Water St., SE.
Which is pretty cool news, except that right now there is no building with an address of 385 Water St., SE.
There were theories that it would be the first hint of retail leasing in the under-construction Arris, which is indeed in the 300 block of Water, but is on the north side of the street and so would have to be an even-numbered address.
The Lumber Shed is 301 Water--if all of the retail spaces in that building weren't spoken for, the notion of just a fat-fingering of the address could have been assumed.
But, 385 Water... Hmmm....
Many of you may not have been around back in 2009 when Forest City received approvals for its plans for Phase 2 of the Yards Park. This included approving the remaking of the Lumber Shed as a glass-enclosed retail pavilion--and also included the plans for two additional retail pavilions on what is now open lawn space between the Shed and 4th Street SE.
The drawings you see here are from 2009 and have actually been on my Yards Park and Lumber Shed pages since then--they show various views of all three pavilions, including a view from a deck on the easternmost pavilion looking toward the west with the Shed and other pavilion visible. (Click to embiggen.)
The larger, eastern pavilion, dubbed P2B (because this is Parcel P) would have a footprint of about 10,300 square feet, while the smaller middle one's footprint would be about 6,300 square feet. Each of them would be less than 40 feet high and would have "open roof terraces on the second story for outdoor dining." And, as the drawings show, they would have much the same glass-and-concrete look as the Lumber Shed does.
And it could certainly be possible that the larger eastern one could have an address of 385 Water Street. And it looks sizeable enough for a venture looking for 450 seats with capacity for 750, plus dancing.
Forest City, as always, makes no comment on tenant-related information when there is no signed lease. And so it's also interesting that District Winery (which City Paper says appears to be from the same folks behind the Brooklyn Winery in New York) has made the move to apply for a liquor license before any lease has been signed.
We Shall See on all of this, including what any potential timeline might be for the construction of one or both of these new pavilions, but at least it means there would appear to be some definite leasing interest for these spaces. Either that or I am terribly off base with all this pondering.
UPDATE: All that pondering, and I could have just read that yes, it is indeed a new building being planned."Plans are still in the early stages, putting an opening at least two years away[.]" (h/t @JES)
Comments (15)
   
 
 More About Yards Park

JDLand.com Home

Comments

JES says: (5/2/15 3:58 PM)
Looks like we're 2 years out at best :-(

link


ZoolanderANDtheBoYz says: (5/2/15 4:31 PM)
I guess instead of building two buildings. They will end up building one big building that can accommodate 15K square foot.


JD says: (5/2/15 4:32 PM)
Not necessarily. Note that I said "footprint" square footage, which didn't account for two floors or should be considered equal to total available retail square footage per building.


JES says: (5/3/15 4:30 PM)
I'm wondering if they'll go with the same kind of modern glass exterior of the lumber shed, or if they'll go with something more rustic, given the use. Time will tell I guess.


Westnorth says: (5/4/15 2:24 PM)
And cue the complaints about "them" paving over "our" precious parks... If I were Forest City, I would have left the site as a gravel lot or maybe seeded it with tallgrass prairie (nice to look at, uninviting to walk upon, mowable for occasional special events).

Interesting question about the facade. Retailers don't get many chances to do a build-to-suit in the city, so I'd expect a well-capitalized operation to seize the chance. Anyhow, this operation's a great match for the space!


JD says: (5/4/15 2:27 PM)
I am not sure how much they can change the design of the new pavilions without sparking a new zoning review. (not saying that would prevent it, just pondering that the Lumber Shed-like designs already have approvals)


JD says: (5/4/15 2:54 PM)
Any of you out there work for USDA? Was there a link to my site in some sort of internal communication today? I'm showing a massive bump of hits from USDA this morning.


MJM says: (5/4/15 4:21 PM)
Perhaps the USDA loves the wine industry? link


JD says: (5/4/15 4:27 PM)
LOL. Actually, after further research it appears to be a rogue machine somewhere in USDA, one that hit my home page close to 700 times this morning.

The fact that it didn't crash the site at least makes me think well of the new server!



JD says: (5/4/15 4:28 PM)
And to the person that wrote me in reference to this, I tried to reply, but you must have typo'ed your e-mail address. But the gist of my reply was don't worry, it won't be counting against you. :)


JD says: (5/5/15 9:07 AM)
Copying from another thread, the overhead Yards Park rendering also gives another view of the pavilions and gives a sense of their footprints:

link



JD says: (5/5/15 10:00 AM)
Sorry, fixing the link:

link



MJM says: (5/5/15 5:35 PM)
Did those 700 hits generate enough clicks/ads to make you a millionaire?


JacquesOfAllTrades says: (5/6/15 11:40 AM)
So it looks like not much of the current Yards Park footprint (if any) is taken up by the new buildings. Just some of the Yards Park-ing Lot.


JD says: (5/6/15 11:51 AM)
(Jacques, I moved your comment to this post.)

The two buildings would be between the Lumber Shed and the 4th Street parking lot. There's currently a big grassy area there (actually, two of them). The two buildings won't take up the entire lawn, but look at this shot to see where I'm talking about.

link

Also look at the last photo above in the post, where you can see two different areas of grass.

Add a Comment:

Comments are closed for this post.

JDLand Comments RSS Feed


 More News


See All Current News Items | Full Blog Archive

 

JDLand.com's Official Unofficial Guide, Updated for 2018!
 Recent Posts

malatesta on Official Whole Foods: Via Twitter, one advantage of having a bunch of Marines in the neighborhood: htt...
JD on Official Whole Foods: Statement from Charles Allen: "Councilmember Charles Allen and staff are on-s...
202_cyclist on Official Whole Foods: In all seriousness, thank you for the update. Also, our thoughts are with the b...
202_cyclist on Official Whole Foods: So when is the movie theater opening?
JD on Long-Distance Tidbit Catchup: Everyone who took Oct. 18 in the Whole Foods pool wins! The official announcemen...
202_cyclist on Long-Distance Tidbit Catchup: JD-- I saw that you re-tweeted it but there is a big fire at the senior housing ...
  
Get JDLand Updates In Your Inbox!



City Government Data for Near Southeast Records added or updated recently displayed here; click the "archive" links to see additional detail and older records. All data from DC Government databases and RSS feeds. JDLand takes no responsibility for errors, omissions, etc. (read CapStat disclaimer). Data is retrieved daily.

Recent Crime Incidents Archive  
1000 5TH ST SE   THEFT FROM AUTO
Theft (theft From Motor Vehicle) - Street / Unknown
 09/16/18
800 B/O L ST SE   THEFT FROM AUTO
Theft (theft From Motor Vehicle)
 09/16/18
1000 B/O NEW JERSEY AVE SE   THEFT FROM AUTO
Theft (theft From Motor Vehicle)
 09/15/18
1000 B/O 3RD ST SE   THEFT FROM AUTO
Theft (theft From Motor Vehicle)
 09/15/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (theft From Building)
 09/13/18
1100 B/O NEW JERSEY AVE SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 09/13/18
1000 B/O HALF ST SE   THEFT FROM AUTO
Theft (theft From Motor Vehicle)
 09/11/18
1100 B/O NEW JERSEY AVE SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 09/08/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Shoplifting
 09/02/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/29/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/29/18
1100 B/O NEW JERSEY AVE SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/29/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/26/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (theft From Building)
 08/21/18
400 B/O M ST SE   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/20/18
1300 B/O 4TH ST SE   THEFT
Theft First Degree (all Other Larceny)
 08/20/18
1400 B/O SOUTH CAPITOL ST   THEFT
Theft 2nd Degree (theft From Building)
 08/20/18

Recent Issued Building Permits Archive  
1108 3RD ST SE   
09/04/18 
JULIANA DUFFY / HERVE BILLIET
SOL1800816 / CONSTRUCTION
This is a new rooftop solar installation for 1108 3rd Street SE, Washington, DC, 20003.
   
09/06/18 
JULIANA DUFFY / null
E1810366 / SUPPLEMENTAL
4 I ST SE   
08/29/18 
CRESCENT COMMUNITIES / MITCH A. PERMUY 727-210-0492
E1809865 / SUPPLEMENTAL
2 I ST SE   
08/27/18 
MCDONALDS CORPORATION / DONNA G GRAHAM
AH1801251 / CONSTRUCTION
WR #3573836-VAETH / BRUNO-WARD 6-20003-PEPCO CREWS WILL BE WORKING #2 I ST SE - MAY NEED TO BLOCK "I" ST ON OCCASION TO INSTALL NETWORK TRANSFORMERS AND INSTALL CABLE - CREW WILL BE WORKING AT NIGHTS DURING THE WEEK (MONDAY THRU FRIDAYS) FROM 9PM TO 7 AM - WILL ALSO BE WORKING WEEKENDS (SAT & SUN) FROM 6AM TIL 6PM
   
08/29/18 
CRESCENT CAPITAL VIEW LLC / KIM MITCHELL
TL1800059 / CONSTRUCTION
EXPEDITION / VELOCITY PROGRAM - INTERIOR WORK ONLY FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT WITH 78 SEATS AND 80 OCCUPANTS INDOORS. WITH BUILDOUT OF AN EXISTING COLD DARK SHELL STRUCTURE AT THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE 2 I STREET BUILDING PERMIT B1713380. THE BUILDOUT IS FOR A RETAIL KITCHEN.
42 I ST SE   
08/23/18 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / HITT CONTRACTING INC
UT1800067 / CONSTRUCTION
REPAIR OF AN EXISTING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK. NO EXCAVATION WILL BE DONE. WORK INCLUDES INSTALL TWO NEW MANWAYS, REPLACE LADDER, REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING PIPING AND PUMPS AND TANK OPERATING EQUIPMENT AND THE RESEALING OF THE INTERIOR OF THE TANK. THE TANK IS LOCATED ON THE CAPITOL POWER PLANT PROPERTY.
202 M ST SE   
09/05/18 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / DANIEL KISER; X
SG1800384 / CONSTRUCTION
Installation of 4 wall mounted signs. 2 @ 26.25 SF and 2 @ 35.5 sf
300 M ST SE   
08/27/18 
FEDERAL CENTER LP / SAM HOLLEN
B1809629 / CONSTRUCTION
INTERIOR RENOVATION TO 3RD FLOOR OFFICE SPACE FOR NEW MEDICAL OFFICE. PARTITIONS, FURNITURE, MEP AND LIFE SAFETY. LEAD WALLS FOR X-RAY ROOM. NO STRUCTURAL. 3006 SQUARE FEET. THE CENTERS FOR ADVANCED ORTHOPEDICS, LLC SUITE 325 **CHANGE IN USE, LEVEL 2 ALTERATION
   
09/05/18 
FEDERAL CENTER LP / null
P1808927 / SUPPLEMENTAL
   
09/05/18 
FEDERAL CENTER LP / null
P1808926 / SUPPLEMENTAL
1100 NEW JERSEY AVE SE   
08/23/18 
SQUARE 742 LLC / null
E1809932 / SUPPLEMENTAL
   
08/30/18 
SQUARE 742 LLC / null
E1810159 / SUPPLEMENTAL
125 O ST SE   
08/29/18 
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA / DAVID T FONTANA
B1803497 / CONSTRUCTION
Revision to issued permit B1700636 for new six story DC WATER HQ office to include: Minor door, ramp and partition changes, corrections to foundation, slab and framing due to field conditions, MEP & FA coordination with other changes, minor changes to landscaping and water utility site work.
71 POTOMAC AVE SE   
08/27/18 
FORIDA ROCK PROPERTIES INC / null
AH1801250 / CONSTRUCTION
afterhours to pour concrete on jobsite from 8 / 27 / 2018 to 9 / 27 / 2018 from 9pm to 7am
   
08/31/18 
FORIDA ROCK PROPERTIES INC / MITCH PERMUY 7272100492
E1810173 / SUPPLEMENTAL
AH = After Hours; B = Alteration & Repair; D = Demolition; E = Electrical; FB = Boiler; M = Mechanical; P = Plumbing and Gas; PC = Post Card; R = Raze; SG = Sign; TL = Tenant Layout; TN = Tent; RW = Retaining Wall;

Real Property Sales Archive  
No commercial transaction records added or modified in the past two weeks.


Project Directory
Completed
99 M ('18)
Agora ('18)
1221 Van ('18)
District Winery ('17)
Insignia on M ('17)
F1rst/Residence Inn ('17)
One Hill South ('17)
Homewood Suites ('16)
ORE 82 ('16)
The Bixby ('16)
Dock 79 ('16)
Community Center ('16)
The Brig ('16)
Park Chelsea ('16)
Yards/Arris ('16)
Hampton Inn ('15)
Southeast Blvd. ('15)
11th St. Bridges ('15)
Parc Riverside ('14)
Twelve12/Yards ('14)
Lumber Shed ('13)
Boilermaker Shops ('13)
Camden South Cap. ('13)
Canal Park ('12)
Capitol Quarter ('12)
225 Virginia/200 I ('12)
Foundry Lofts ('12)
1015 Half Street ('10)
Yards Park ('10)
Velocity Condos ('09)
Teague Park ('09)
909 New Jersey Ave. ('09)
55 M ('09)
100 M ('08)
Onyx ('08)
70/100 I ('08)
Nationals Park ('08)
Seniors Bldg Demo ('07)
400 M ('07)
Douglass Bridge Fix ('07)
US DOT HQ ('07)
20 M ('07)
Capper Seniors 1 ('06)
Capitol Hill Tower ('06)
Courtyard/Marriott ('06)
Marine Barracks ('04)


Overviews
Capper/Carrollsburg
Anacostia Riverwalk
New Jersey Avenue
M Street
South Capitol Street
The Yards
Lower 8th Street
East M Street
Boathouse Row





                  © Copyright 2018 JD.